Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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Hi guys.I'm Nick from Harford Cty. Md.I usually fish the Susquehanna River in Md. & S.Pa. for Walleyes.It's been slow here so far this fall season.I once fished Deep creek with a guide from Johnny Marples years ago for N.pike & walleyes.We fished early May.There were still no leaves on the trees yet?Any way,we fished from sun up to sun down and this guide fished every cove in the lake.It was close to 200 mi. & 3hr. 45 min. from my home so I haven't been there since.We caught every species in the lake except a Walleye or N.Pike.I'd like to get back there and try again though.I fish from shore,kayak, & boat. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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Reply with quote | #2 | Hey Nick, welcome. Nobody up here ever fishes open water, that's the first thing you need to know (just kidding). I visit your neck of the woods every spring to swing a fly for shad in Deer Creek for hickories and below Conowingo Dam for whites... it is a long drive either way, isn't it? Tell us more about those 'eyes on the mighty Susky... I hear the river is full of them, but never hear anything about the average size, approaches used, etc. Sometimes I float by pontoon craft between the dam and the start of tidewater (forgetting the name of the place... Rock Run Landing?). Could a guy expect to mix some shad fishing with some walleye action, or are the seasons totally out of sync?
'4u2 / Don __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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I caught my first walleye there in 1966.We usually use jigs w/twister tails and rebel type plugs.The average size has been 15-20in.with a few under & over.There's no more freshwater/tidal water boundary line at Deer Creek since 1990.After the striper morretorium the DNR made the entire river tidal to keep the striper regs. the same in that part of the river.It's still been very slow for walleyes this fall. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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For some reason,the walleye fishing drops off dramatically when the shad show up and remains spotty til fall. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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I was aware that the original and actual tidewater line was officially "moved" up to the dam, but never understood why the regs could not have been modified to protect stripers either in tidewater and/or the entire Susquehanna River, period. Or perhaps the regs could have said stripers cannot be harvested anywhere in the state, EXCEPT... (and list those bodies of freshwater or whatever here). Perhaps there was a good reason for moving the designated tide line (anybody know?), but claims of global warming advocates aside, the tide still stops in the same place. It strikes me about the same as if the government of a tropical country decided to 'move' the equator for convenience. It is what it is. __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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Freshwater Striper regs. are open year around.If they didn't move the tidal line to the Dam,it would have been legal to harvest stripers all year above the demarcation line above Deer creek to the Dam.Above the Dam(Conowingo lake)It's legal to harvest Striped Bass all year. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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Reply with quote | #7 | I get that, of course.
My only point was... why was it not simply stated that during the moratorium, harvest of stripers was not permissable in either the tidal waters of the Chesapeake Bay, or in the Susquehanna River downstream of Conowingo Dam?
Simple. Straightforward. Leaves the actual point of high tide exactly where it is.
Alternatively, decree that stripers can only be harvested from the freshwaters of the state (where there is no closed season), EXCEPT from the Susquehanna River downstream of Conowingo Dam which is placed under the same harvest regulations as are all tidal waters (no open season).
The way it got handled was a little like moving the goal line for just one team (substitute 'body of water') in the NFL (substitute 'State of MD'). Or saying that statewide, largemouth bass must be over 12" long to be legally harvested, except in "Imaginary Lake" where a special half-scale ruler may be substituted for the real thing. Why do that? Its silly. Just say you can keep bass from this particular place if they exceed 6".
Repositioning the line of demarcation between tidal and fresh on the Susky its very make-pretend, and unnecessary. I was all for the moratorium, but the ackwardness of the regulatory process stuck in my craw, that's all. I'm done. __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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Reply with quote | #8 | Almost done.
Nick, I think this example is before your time here on this board, but let's make a similar regulation which states that "Ice fishing is allowed on all the public still waters of Garrett County except for Broadford Lake, which does not freeze over."
Yes, its all beginning to make perfect sense to me, now! __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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StrikeLead
Registered: 09/05/06
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Reply with quote | #9 | Not to change the subject or anything like that but......I was cheacking out my auger today and realized that I had just bought a new blade last season right before the thaw. Oh the grin on my face when I saw that shiny new hole popper. YES!
Anyone else getting a little "jiggy"? __________________ My biggest worry is that my wife (when I'm dead) will sell my fishing gear for what I told her I paid for it. ~Koos Brandt |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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Strike, ya got'ta give me credit for at least steering the admittedly far-flung Susky striper reg thread back towards the main (frosty) topic du' jour! And Nick, the quickest way to fit in on this board is to either genuinely be a little 'jiggy' for hardwater angling (which can be excellent at DCL), or at least to express curiousity about the possibility. As far as I can tell, that's the heart and soul of this place. If you're not already into the whole ice fishing thing (and I have no way of knowing), don't let distance or unfamiliarity with the practice or the local scene prevent you from giving it a try this winter. There are plenty of good folks here that'll offer advice, or perhaps even take a newbie under their wing for a day. Early moring hours and early ice in general can be especially good, so don't wait for mid-season if in the next few months you are thinking about coming up this way to wet (freeze?) a line. __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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polarbear Registered: 01/25/07
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here is your report .......I slammed them today , walleyes and super duper jumbo perch in close to shore . anchored up at 10;00 am and didn't move till 4:00 pm when I left |
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Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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What size were the Eyes?17-19 is worthwhile to me. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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polarbear Registered: 01/25/07
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Nick Registered: 10/22/09
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My ice fishing days are over. __________________ Fishing can be anything you want it to be |
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fishing4u2
Registered: 02/03/07
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By coincidence, my ice fishing days started in Harford County, on Broad Creek (an impounded cove of Conowingo Lake). As a teenager I worked in a tackle shop and learned that the owner was planning a day trip up that way, so I asked to tag along. I had no specialized gear of either the tackle or the clothing variety. Not even a five-gallon pail to sit on! Fortunately, despite it being a generally slow day for everyone in that cove, I managed to catch a very large black crappie well within the first half-hour. A couple of nice 'gills came along later. After that I froze myself silly, but by then I was already hooked on the novel experience of fishing hardwater. If it were not for the better boots and clothing and shelters available today, I suppose my ice fishing days would pretty soon be over. But if I ever get a legitimate heater I really can't see any reason to have to hang up my auger. __________________ If its got fins, count me in |
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